
Welcome to Beyond the Code, the podcast where we dive into the legal, regulatory, and ethical issues surrounding emerging technologies. Each week, we bring you in-depth conversations with industry experts, discussing the latest advancements in technology and their implications on society and the legal system. From artificial intelligence to blockchain, we’ll be exploring all the hot topics in the field. Your host, Yitzy Hammer, a lawyer and tech enthusiast, is joined by a diverse group of experts, providing valuable insight into the complex and ever-evolving world of technology.
In this episode of Beyond the Code, Yitzy Hammer sits down with Scott Thiel, CEO and founder of Tokinvest, to explore how real-world asset tokenization is moving from hype to reality.
Scott shares his path from award-winning lawyer and legal innovator to startup founder building regulated on-chain investment products in Dubai. He reflects on his years at DLA Piper, his early fascination with the intersection of law and technology, his exposure to China’s fast-moving tech ecosystem, and how that journey ultimately led him into blockchain, Hedera, and the world of tokenization.
The conversation dives deep into Tokinvest’s mission to make high-value assets more accessible through fractional ownership, from racehorses and art to commodities and real estate. Scott explains why regulation has been the missing piece for RWAs, how Dubai’s VARA framework created the right environment for innovation, and why Tokinvest’s latest approved real estate product marks a major step forward for retail access to tokenized finance.
They also discuss the hard realities of building in crypto, what it takes to bring compliant products to market, why not every asset should be tokenized, and what the next wave of adoption could look like as RWAs finally begin to scale.

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